Today I Saw a Native Animal
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Hey what animal or insect dug this hole?
It was out near Beacon in the NE wheat belt in WA. There seemed to be one every 10 meters or so.
There was no pile of dirt around the hole or any scratching or paw / feet / tail marks.
Some sort of wasp??
It was out near Beacon in the NE wheat belt in WA. There seemed to be one every 10 meters or so.
There was no pile of dirt around the hole or any scratching or paw / feet / tail marks.
Some sort of wasp??
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It could be a Bardy Grub hole, I think giant moths lay there eggs in the hole and they emerge as moths after the Grub has pupeyed.
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Forgive my ignorance, why are they sought after? Tucker? Bait?
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Bait is the most popular reason, never heard of them gathered for tucker but they may well be for some.
I reckon 100% that's it. If I feel like a snack next time I'm out that way.........
Thanks.
I found a small snake too. In the bush near Cadoux under some tin.
About 50cm long and just a bit thicker than a pencil.
I'm not snake expert but it looks like a dugite that I saw on the SW coast at Yallingup.
Is it a dugite?
About 50cm long and just a bit thicker than a pencil.
I'm not snake expert but it looks like a dugite that I saw on the SW coast at Yallingup.
Is it a dugite?
David-Karratha
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I’d suggest being very very careful in trying to identify snakes by their colouring. The attached photo (from the ”Snakes of the Pilbara” publication) shows the variations in colours of a clutch of Gwadars or Western Brown Snakes.
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It could be. I googled their holes and they look very similar. I can't remember there being any silk on the inside walls of the hole.
So many different animals out there!
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The colour of snakes can certainly be misleading.
A naturalist once told me that the snake known as the king brown is actually a type of black snake.
This is interesting because, since the black snake is more placid and less venomous than the eastern brown
it seems to indicate that the king brown may share those welcome attributes.
Not that I would welcome either one of them in my bedroll.
The snake once known as the king brown is now known as the mulga snake (Pseudechis australis), I guess to distinguish it from the unrelated eastern brown snake (Pseudonaja textilis), which it resembles in appearance. As you were correctly informed, the mulga snake is in the same family as the red-bellied black snake (Pseudechis porphyriacus) of the east coast.
The main problems with the mulga snake are:
1. Although its venom is less toxic than the eastern brown snake (and works differently, causing muscle paralysis rather than nervous system collapse), its output of venom is greater than any other Australian venomous species; and
2. Treatment of mulga snake bite victims with brown snake antivenom is ineffective - black snake antivenom is necessary!
Here in WA, both the dugite and the gwardar can also be brown-coloured, but since they're in the same family (Pseudonaja) as the eastern brown, ordinary brown snake antivenom is an effective treatment for either. Unfortunately, because the mulga snake is a brown-coloured snake too, there's a big danger of incorrect identification resulting in incorrect medical intervention.
The main problems with the mulga snake are:
1. Although its venom is less toxic than the eastern brown snake (and works differently, causing muscle paralysis rather than nervous system collapse), its output of venom is greater than any other Australian venomous species; and
2. Treatment of mulga snake bite victims with brown snake antivenom is ineffective - black snake antivenom is necessary!
Here in WA, both the dugite and the gwardar can also be brown-coloured, but since they're in the same family (Pseudonaja) as the eastern brown, ordinary brown snake antivenom is an effective treatment for either. Unfortunately, because the mulga snake is a brown-coloured snake too, there's a big danger of incorrect identification resulting in incorrect medical intervention.
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Thanks for that interesting info.
I was also told that the eastern brown snake has short fangs so that if it bites at you through thick socks or a pair of jeans it should not break the skin.
As a confirmed panner, I wear gum boots so ankle biters ae the least of my concerns.
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I found this resting on a plank in the back yard. It's about 75mm long, and seems to have spurs on its legs like a N.Z. weta has. Can anyone I.D. it? wiley.
Gampsocleis buergeri (Bush Cricket) according to Google.
From your link, it looks like that species is Japanese.
The closest-looking match I can find is a Conehead Katydid, here:
https://www.adelaidenow.com.au/news...mage-gallery/7fd1f13b848a64f6207c07c242c4dc75
I reckon it’s well travelled then!
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