- Mar 10, 2016
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Well it won't be removed from here erfect: thanks for the heads up ower:
RM Outback said:Well it won't be removed from here erfect: thanks for the heads up ower:
Araratgold said:UPDATE :
To Reg's credit, he has just publicly apologised to me on Finders Forum for the shite he gave me over my experience with the QED.
It takes a good man to do that, more kudos to Reg !
Araratgold said:Typical Dud !
The heat of Reg feeding it to Howard got too much on his floppum, so he closed the thread to all but his members ( less than 10 of which are active ), and demands that we join if we want to continue reading about Howard's arse reaming.
Gutless wonder !
What about the public's right to know Dud ??
Please do not bring that crap over here.
You Have been Warned.
XLOOX said:I am one of those 10 on AEGPF.
Sad to see this surprising but enlightening outburst. It may well spell the end for the QED as no matter how awesome it is when it is working, people insist on reliability & consistency first or they just wont buy (think 1970s Alfa Romeo).
I cant see how any person could take your word on any metal detector. Are you not the same guy that bricked a 7000 making the x coil adapter and kept it secret from the whole world as you were pushing those x coils at the time. Steve at DP forum was onto you though. I would buy one of these Qeds just to have a look myself cant really go off what you say. The whole 7000 bricking debacle was very poor form in my honest opinion. :N:phrunt said:I still like the QED, great detector for the money and nice and light and excellent in high EMI areas, can be more sensitive than the GPX but I don't think as deep for me on some targets, a few issues with build quality with the older 3D printed parts and weak cabling/connectors which are mostly being resolved I think in newer builds as it's evolved and Reg seemed to want to do his best to let people know about any potential flaws and have them fixed and certain people rebelled against him for that and threw abuse at him too which is sad as he was doing the right thing by the end users, there is never anything wrong with constructive criticism and Minelab constantly cop it from me and many others. If Minelab didn't exist it'd likely be the current market leader for PI gold detectors though.
I just don't use it often enough and when I do it was mainly just to compare it to other detectors on test targets more so than taking it prospecting as like with anything you use what gives you the most chance of success and for my circumstances it wasn't the best for most situations out of the detectors I've got to choose from and I found myself reaching for the GPZ or the Equinox instead. I bought it to see how it compares to other detectors out of interest more than anything. If I need a lightweight detector here I can use a VLF like my Equinox which has the added benefit of being waterproof as it performs significantly better on small gold anyway which is mostly what we have around here and seeing my soils are mostly mild the Equinox easily out performs the QED and meets it or beats it in depth anyway in mild soils especially on smaller gold and I have the GPX and GPZ when I want to use a more powerful unit so it spent most of it's life in my cupboard. I intended to use it as my creek detecting PI as it'd do a good job of that and if I dropped it in the water by accident I wouldn't be too devastated but I'll just stick with the waterproof Nox for that with the new Coiltek 10x5", the QED is a bit delicate for rough treatment anyway.
The QED has a lot of toxic people around the project, mostly some hard line users that hate people questioning anything about it and I was attacked by one of them as I questioned how significant this random poor performing detector thing is and how widespread... I think that's a reasonable thing to ask as many QED users, I'd almost say a majority are either new to prospecting or it's their first PI detector and they'd have no clue if they had a poorly performing one. As their hard line supporters would rather dismiss any possibility of bad units and abuse people who question anything in regards to it's performance and in many cases outright lie saying it performs better than other units on the market. Maybe I'll get a future model one day as it keeps improving.
People need to learn to keep it real, yes it's a good detector but it's not a GPZ performance killer like some make out, closer to a GPX in performance under some circumstances and a well experienced user can probably make it exceed the GPX in performance fiddling with settings to suit the situation like I was doing making it perform better on small gold than the GPX. You can tune it to be good on the gold type in the area that you're looking for but it is a single channel PI so you have your bias to adjust to suit the possible gold in the area, go one way biasing towards bigger targets and you lose some performance on the other. It also hits on funky gold the GPX completely misses even touching the coil so I'm not saying it's a bad detector, quite the opposite, but some people associated with it are doing it far more harm than good and if I was a potential buyer and saw what these people do I'd run for the hills never to go near the brand, fortunately most of it is done behind closed doors in a private Facebook group that you have to join to see what they say. If they thought that group would be beneficial to the brand it would be completely public so anyone can see it, members or not.
I wish Howard the best, he's is a good guy and stands behind his product, it has a great warranty and he honours it, and it's constantly improving, the new ground balance method is great in comparison to the old ground balance ability and I look forward to seeing newer better models in the future. Currently with a decent coil on it and for the price it can't be beat so it certainly has it's place and as I said is a good detector but it's not the best detector when it comes to performance, it is in ergonomics though, fantastic weight and if that means you can swing it for a week straight where as someone else gets worn out in half a day and gets sloppy and tired, which person will find more gold?
Thanks for clearing that up phrunt.phrunt said:You should buy one, being new to detecting and not being used to any other PI you'd take to it quite quickly and it does the job. Steve from DP wasn't "on to me" he knew about it the entire time as we told him not too long after it happened years ago long before the coils were being sold and were just prototypes that we were going to try out but anyway... It's up to you what you want to do or think, I was just giving some feedback on a detector's performance which maybe helpful to someone and I'm sure most would agree with what I've said in that post, especially those that have owned the detectors talked about in it.