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I live at Emerald and would like to go metal detecting for gold at Clermont using a Minelab GPX series detector. However I am fitted with a heart pacemaker and some activities using machines which give out "radiations" are inadvisable (if your pacemaker stops then so do you!). My guess is that metal detectors, which primarily direct their "radiations" into the ground would be OK - but Minelab will not confirm this. I'd be very grateful if any of the forum members could offer informed advice.
 
I have to say that is a question that I have never seen asked on the forum so it will be interesting to see if any members are detecting with a pacemaker fitted also, I imagine there would be but I know you seek a definite response.
 
I think caution would be the best policy, Fisher detectors mention that VLF detectors are far away enough not to cause an issues, but not to put the coil when in operation near any implanted medical device. Garrett also mention regarding the ATX, that as the coil sits out the front of the shaft, away from the body, that it should not be an issue regarding pacemakers, and detecting metal items on . So you must wonder if running a large coil on a Minelab PI detector would be cause for alarm.

Anothing thing to note is that most airport detectors are PI, and most websites recommend to pass through them quickly, or show doctors papers to go to alternative screening. Makes you wonder. :)
 
Hi Bill, I can answer that mate. I have a defibrilator/pacemaker (ICD) fitted and it has never caused me any grief. My biggest pain is that it does aid me to find the yellow stuff ......but thats another story. I hope I can report a change to that in a couple of weeks. Bill, just go for it, and you'll have a lot of fun doing it, chasing the yellow I mean.
I also weld with my pacemaker/defibrilator and while it causes my wife some grief, the word is that its doesnt give any hassles.
I once had a small electric shock too, so I talked to the Cardio while I was at one of my appts, and he told me of a guy who got caught up in an electric fence. He was ok. They are pretty indestructible really.
 
Thanks Tassie - that was exactly the sort of response that I was hoping for! I can now go ahead and detect my fortune!
 
G'Day Bill

By trade I am an Electronics Technician who started my working life with a company called Telectronics P/L in the late 70's. They were part of the Cochlea (Implant) group, which was in its infancy back then. This company manufactured pacemakers. I was employed there to do a number of different duties over the 5 or so years that I was there, which included assembly, quality control, quality assurance, testing modules at various stages of manufacture and equipment calibration to test these sensitive devices. I do remember that they had what was called an Interference Reversion Period (IRP) which was in the vicinity of 120mS +/- 20mS. This, to my knowledge, allowed the device to 'reset itself' after this period of time, if there was a significant level of interference encountered by the device. If you are totally dependent on the pacemaker for electrical stimulus to your heart, I would be very careful around detectors. Technology would have improved some what since the early 80's, but you would have received information from the medical staff when the pacemaker was fitted. The field of radiation emitted by the detectors is usually diagrammatically indicated to show how it penetrates the ground, with no inclusion on the diagram showing what radiation pattern is emitted above the coil. Best advice would be to keep the coil away from your chest area (not that I think you would rest it on your chest for some reason) and use the detector as the manufacturer recommends.

Metal detectors for security: Interactions with metal detectors are unlikely to cause clinically significant symptoms in most patients. However, the American Heart Association recommends that you:
Don't stay near the metal detector longer than is necessary.
Don't lean against the system.
If scanning with a hand-held metal detector is necessary, tell the security personnel that you have a pacemaker. Ask them not to hold the metal detector near the device any longer than is absolutely necessary. Or ask for an alternative form of personal search.

Contrary to popular belief, modern home appliances - including microwave ovens - do not interfere with pacemakers and should not cause any concern whatsoever. With other devices, there are only a few special precautions you will need to take. They include:
Cellular telephones. Cell phones, if held close to the pacemaker (which may happen if the phone is kept in a breast pocket) can potentially affect the function of a pacemaker. But as long as the phone is kept six inches or more away from the pacemaker there should not be a problem.

Magnets. Similar to cell phones, magnets can affect a pacemaker if they are brought to within six inches or so. Simply keep magnets away from your pacemaker.

Anti-theft detectors. The walk-through, anti-theft detectors in stores work by generating electromagnetic waves, which can momentarily interfere with the function of a pacemaker. However, as long as you walk through the detector normally (and don't stop or pause inside of it), you should not experience any problems. So, when you encounter one of these devices, just keep moving right through it.

I hope this info helps.

Cheers Monty
 
Tassie Daz said:
Hi Bill, I can answer that mate. I have a defibrilator/pacemaker (ICD) fitted and it has never caused me any grief. My biggest pain is that it does aid me to find the yellow stuff ......but thats another story. I hope I can report a change to that in a couple of weeks. Bill, just go for it, and you'll have a lot of fun doing it, chasing the yellow I mean.
I also weld with my pacemaker/defibrilator and while it causes my wife some grief, the word is that its doesnt give any hassles.
I once had a small electric shock too, so I talked to the Cardio while I was at one of my appts, and he told me of a guy who got caught up in an electric fence. He was ok. They are pretty indestructible really.

There you go! That's what PA is all about, exchange of information.
I bet Bill wasn't expecting an answer, good on you Tassie Daz!
 
I asked Minelab the same Question Got no answer back from them.
I asked the heart specialist that same question The type that he recommended was compatible with MRI and also said to keep the Coil 60 cm (2') away from the pacemaker(PPM). The best advice is to look up the web site of your model and read the advice they give you. Also be aware that Super Magnets are out/prohibited keep your Phone/GPS/CB radio at least 150 mm (6") away from your PPM. The main thing is if you feel it is doing something to your PPM move it or your self away from it.
 
Many thanks to everyone who has commented. Your're right Backcreek, I did not expect such a very good and informative response. My pacemaker was fitted very suddenly (and unexpectedly) in France and whereas I guess I was given plenty of advice at the time my French is very limited - so I didn't understand any of it!
I now have practical advice from Tassie and Geof, who both wear pacemakers and happily fossick with detectors, and an overview from Monty on the production side. What more could I want!
 
Just as an aside Bill, my Defib is tecktronics (brand name). I don't know if other brands have different responses, but because I weld, detector and many other things my wife wishes I didn't, I had to check all this out with the Cardio. It wouldn't be much chop having an episode out in the bush without any help but hay, if it happens, well at leat I'd be doing what I truly love to do. My only wish is that I lived a bit closer to a real gold field. SA's a long way from real gold dirt.
 

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