Thanks Mr. Magoo.
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Trouble is many famous historic figures potentially have a chequered past when judged by today's ultra PC standards.Deepseeker said:Yes, that is true Mackka. There is a big difference between celebrating a slave trader with a monument, and celebrating one of the architects of our constitution or European settlement. We all have to get along, thankfully it's a big block of land that we have to do it on.
Pete E said:Trouble is many famous historic figures potentially have a chequered past when judged by today's ultra PC standards.Deepseeker said:Yes, that is true Mackka. There is a big difference between celebrating a slave trader with a monument, and celebrating one of the architects of our constitution or European settlement. We all have to get along, thankfully it's a big block of land that we have to do it on.
One they were talking about on the news today was Baden Powell, founder of the Boy Scouts...It seems that prior to WW2, he was quite right wing, and supported or endorsed, Hitler...So while I don't support the protests/riots, I do realise history is not always clear cut on matters such as these...
Pete E said:Trouble is many famous historic figures potentially have a chequered past when judged by today's ultra PC standards.Deepseeker said:Yes, that is true Mackka. There is a big difference between celebrating a slave trader with a monument, and celebrating one of the architects of our constitution or European settlement. We all have to get along, thankfully it's a big block of land that we have to do it on.
One they were talking about on the news today was Baden Powell, founder of the Boy Scouts...It seems that prior to WW2, he was quite right wing, and supported or endorsed, Hitler...So while I don't support the protests/riots, I do realise history is not always clear cut on matters such as these...
OldGT said:Pete E said:Trouble is many famous historic figures potentially have a chequered past when judged by today's ultra PC standards.Deepseeker said:Yes, that is true Mackka. There is a big difference between celebrating a slave trader with a monument, and celebrating one of the architects of our constitution or European settlement. We all have to get along, thankfully it's a big block of land that we have to do it on.
One they were talking about on the news today was Baden Powell, founder of the Boy Scouts...It seems that prior to WW2, he was quite right wing, and supported or endorsed, Hitler...So while I don't support the protests/riots, I do realise history is not always clear cut on matters such as these...
If you go looking for snakes all you will tend to see is snakes.
You've highlighted the problem, context and the time period matters. Still amuses me that during the peak of the modern era (aka right now) some groups choose to ignore whats right in front of them, instead wading into the deep and murky waters of history, where sadly they have no influence.
Maybe the could go and watch (or rewatch) The Lion King, and look past the fact its marketed as a kids cartoon movie made by Disney. Modern version of a very old tale.
Giving the Devil his due isnt always ignorance, it can be acceptance.
OldGT said:My mates Mother was a scout leader for a number of years, who knew that suburban housewife was actually a facist.
Won't ever happen.Pete E said:So when are we going to discount Race, gender, religious leanings, entirely and treat everybody exactly the same under the law? No discrimination at all, but equally no special measures for any "minority" or "special interest" groups?
True...mbasko said:Won't ever happen.Pete E said:So when are we going to discount Race, gender, religious leanings, entirely and treat everybody exactly the same under the law? No discrimination at all, but equally no special measures for any "minority" or "special interest" groups?
Who would the politicians pander to then? O
mbasko said:Won't ever happen.Pete E said:So when are we going to discount Race, gender, religious leanings, entirely and treat everybody exactly the same under the law? No discrimination at all, but equally no special measures for any "minority" or "special interest" groups?
Who would the politicians pander to then? O
Pete E said:So when are we going to discount Race, gender, religious leanings, entirely and treat everybody exactly the same under the law? No discrimination at all, but equally no special measures for any "minority" or "special interest" groups?
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