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Awwww c'mon scrounger, ya know ya won't get any support for that idea (good as it is...) 'cos as we all know it aint so common....

Shame, ya nearly had something there lol... :p

Gypsy
 
Yes Gypsy, it's an extremely rare commodity here and elsewhere, and especially when it comes to pollies who seem driven more by self interest and ego, and who lack any b...s to standup and be counted because they might lose their power. Oh well....I might just go fishing :lol:
 
RotGrub said:
Just finished this up...

[video=480,360]https://youtu.be/zeWpA-l-tyw[/video]

Hay Dave,
I have often wondered this myself because here in Oz we have a political party/organisation for every outdoor recreation.
WHAT IF all those people formed a united front? They would be a formidable political force and demand attention from the politicians of this country and it would be the same in your's I would expect.

It has happened here in the past and blood was shed and two hundred Americans were involved, the Independent Californian Rangers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Rebellion

"We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other to defend our rights and liberties"

Cheers
Mick
 
Trouble is as i see it backcreek, here in OZ, even groups within groups such as anglers can't bloody agree! Native fish anglers against trouties, salties against freshwater anglers etc etc. Hikers against 4WDers. From what i've see in the states and NZ, at least people who 'use' the outdoors actually uphold the right of others to use the bush in a legitimate way. Just my opinion.
 
Well said and spot on Scrounger.

It is a sad fact of life that we can rarely agree on the things that matter to us most.

I actually despair at the quality (or lack thereof) of politics these days. We oppose merely to oppose we disagree merely to disagree and we all want our own way on everything without being able to compromise.

Not sure what we will leave for our kids in this world.

Terry
 
Well fellas.. some good points made here and i understand and share your common frustration. The way i see it is that things began to go pear-shape soon after world war two.Sure we were in desperate need of help in the fight against the Japs. England was quiet prepared to use us ..and the rest of the commonwealth, to fight its war with the Germans...EUROPE FIRST and then the Pacific was Churchills call...gawd knows what would have happened if the Yankees had not entered the war. It was however only Japan's mistake in bombing Pearl Harbour that saved our arses.... but... we fell under their spell, that is we progressively became followers of consumerism, and we liked it..so we began to consume more and more till we then began to borrow more and we wanted more and along the way we let our common purpose formed at Eureka and later by the formation of the the Labour Party and our Unionism and all that it brought us in terms of pay and conditions and the idea of an egalitarian society, where Government was to be "For the People, By the People...etc where the primary purpose of the Government was... "The Fair and Equitable Distribution of the Nations Wealth." We let them first abolish Compulsory Unionism,we were told we were entering into a new workers Utopia of consultation and co-operation, we let do away with conditions and allowances and entered the Brave New World of 'enterprise bargaining', the casualisation of the workforce 'Productivity' became the new driving force in the industrial equation... ie, Sunday penalty rates is now under dire threat..etc etc,etc...ad nauseum.we have become simply pawns in the global Corporate game of thrones.. America has become the New Empire, dying in a war...we are told... is the Ultimate Sacrifice, as it has always been and we wave the flag and tell each other that our finest must be blown to pieces in order to preserve ..FREEDOM.. AND...they do and we raise the flag.. half of which still bears the banner that previously enslaved us and we mind our place and bow and scrape and play our role as consumers and its fk you jack.. i've got two cars a boat and a bloody big joint up on the block there, me missus works n' the kids all have I phones.. and I ask where are the leaders with Vision and a sense of Humanity, where is our collective sense of a fair go for All...lost i'm afraid...The Australia i grew up in has long since disappeared...morphed into an ugly selfish beast that does the corporate bidding while being whipped into submission by governments who now want control of everything we do and say and who now have the means to do it. Unfortunately this will continue...until someday some distant day when, Blood will Stain the Wattle.
 
All good points reefer and very par for the course mate!

But you know what, why get caught up in the politics of it all?

All i wanna do is go prospecting with a free reign, and F**k the rest of the worlds pressures!

A camp fire at night, a few beers and no radio of world news events.....Just the birds singing to me in the morning.

;)
 
Metamorphic said:
Great stuff Grub......A man with the courage, the insight and decency to make a stand for what he believes in, and what is rightfully ours!

I salute you mate!

Long live the freedom to enjoy and prosper from our great outdoors I say. ;)

God bless Australia, and our brothers in the USA.

Regards

Meta.

I suspect being pissed off gives one courage Metamorphic...
 
MJB said:
Well done Rotgrub, your passion to stand up for your rights and liberties is admired mate.

Surely with a few more like minded people you can make a change for the better. Best of luck with mate

Thanks MJB, If this issue goes unattended much longer we'll be locked out of our wilderness.
 
SCROUNGER said:
Here's a novel idea Rotgrub that might work over there and that definitely wouldn't go astray in OZ in my opinion...What if we had a COMMON SENSE political party? Yeah, i know it's really way out there thinking, and probably brought about by my recreational drug taking in the sixties and seventies, but i dunno, maybe it's worth contemplating :)

I've been doing some research and found that there is approximately 70 mil outdoorsmen in the US. Out of approximately 230 mil eligible voters only about 120 mil vote on average for presidential elections. My point; what if the outdoorsmen united on common issues that impact all of us...
 
Chewy said:
Onya rotgrub, good luck mate. Hey you should strike while they're weakened and distracted by Trumpy's antics. (Insert whip sound effect). :)

I see you've been paying attention... It will get more crazy as we near the elections. At the very least Trump has exposed many issues that regular folk believe in. Where it goes from here...
 
backcreek said:
RotGrub said:
Just finished this up...

[video=480,360]https://youtu.be/zeWpA-l-tyw[/video]

Hay Dave,
I have often wondered this myself because here in Oz we have a political party/organisation for every outdoor recreation.
WHAT IF all those people formed a united front? They would be a formidable political force and demand attention from the politicians of this country and it would be the same in your's I would expect.

It has happened here in the past and blood was shed and two hundred Americans were involved, the Independent Californian Rangers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Rebellion

"We swear by the Southern Cross to stand truly by each other to defend our rights and liberties"

Cheers
Mick

Mick,

Like I've said before; outdoorsmen are outdoorsmen regardless where we live. I've been studying this issue for a few years now and you are right. When one organization reaches out to another it doesn't get any traction. I suspect (like in all politics) the leaders of each group aren't willing to give up power to another. When we reached out to the ATV / Off Road guys in the past there was a lot of good talk but nothing ever became of it. So most organizations continue to fight their battles against a machine that has unlimited resources. My angle now is to reach out to individuals within the Off Road and Hunting organizations and see it I can create some support from within; pressing their leaders to start making alliances (or we just start another for all outdoorsmen). I was able to locate many university studies regarding the populations and annual economies for each user group. What I found is there is approximately 70 mil outdoorsmen with an annual economy of approximately 650 billion in the US. This is larger that many other sectors but is unrecognized as a specific category. The NRA has 5 mil members and they are very successful, What if just 10% of the outdoorsmen united... We're running out of time.
 
SCROUNGER said:
Trouble is as i see it backcreek, here in OZ, even groups within groups such as anglers can't bloody agree! Native fish anglers against trouties, salties against freshwater anglers etc etc. Hikers against 4WDers. From what i've see in the states and NZ, at least people who 'use' the outdoors actually uphold the right of others to use the bush in a legitimate way. Just my opinion.

You are very right Scrounger, I can't help to believe that this is not by accident... When the miners (dredgers) where have a rough go up north, the environmentalist rounded up a few of our Native Americans and fishermen and feed them unscientific lies which got them worked up against the miners. Overtime however, many of these groups are starting to realize that they were played; just pawns in the environmental grand scheme. They have realized that they are next on the list to be eradicated... So we continue to educate and push for unity.
 
Explorer385 said:
Well said and spot on Scrounger.

It is a sad fact of life that we can rarely agree on the things that matter to us most.

I actually despair at the quality (or lack thereof) of politics these days. We oppose merely to oppose we disagree merely to disagree and we all want our own way on everything without being able to compromise.

Not sure what we will leave for our kids in this world.

Terry

Well said Explorer385, my only comment; there is no compromise between liberty and tyranny... In regards to the wilderness, we the outdoorsmen are the stewards of our lands and we should manage and protect them for their quality and use for all future generations. Locking us out will not stand.
 
reefer said:
Well fellas.. some good points made here and i understand and share your common frustration. The way i see it is that things began to go pear-shape soon after world war two.Sure we were in desperate need of help in the fight against the Japs. England was quiet prepared to use us ..and the rest of the commonwealth, to fight its war with the Germans...EUROPE FIRST and then the Pacific was Churchills call...gawd knows what would have happened if the Yankees had not entered the war. It was however only Japan's mistake in bombing Pearl Harbour that saved our arses.... but... we fell under their spell, that is we progressively became followers of consumerism, and we liked it..so we began to consume more and more till we then began to borrow more and we wanted more and along the way we let our common purpose formed at Eureka and later by the formation of the the Labour Party and our Unionism and all that it brought us in terms of pay and conditions and the idea of an egalitarian society, where Government was to be "For the People, By the People...etc where the primary purpose of the Government was... "The Fair and Equitable Distribution of the Nations Wealth." We let them first abolish Compulsory Unionism,we were told we were entering into a new workers Utopia of consultation and co-operation, we let do away with conditions and allowances and entered the Brave New World of 'enterprise bargaining', the casualisation of the workforce 'Productivity' became the new driving force in the industrial equation... ie, Sunday penalty rates is now under dire threat..etc etc,etc...ad nauseum.we have become simply pawns in the global Corporate game of thrones.. America has become the New Empire, dying in a war...we are told... is the Ultimate Sacrifice, as it has always been and we wave the flag and tell each other that our finest must be blown to pieces in order to preserve ..FREEDOM.. AND...they do and we raise the flag.. half of which still bears the banner that previously enslaved us and we mind our place and bow and scrape and play our role as consumers and its fk you jack.. i've got two cars a boat and a bloody big joint up on the block there, me missus works n' the kids all have I phones.. and I ask where are the leaders with Vision and a sense of Humanity, where is our collective sense of a fair go for All...lost i'm afraid...The Australia i grew up in has long since disappeared...morphed into an ugly selfish beast that does the corporate bidding while being whipped into submission by governments who now want control of everything we do and say and who now have the means to do it. Unfortunately this will continue...until someday some distant day when, Blood will Stain the Wattle.

reefer, I'm too ignorant to speak to much of what you said regarding OZ history and politics but who the hell are these people? In the US or OZ or most every other place tyranny is the common goal. It takes different forms and has different names but the goal is the same. We need to find the curtain and rip it down for all to see. Some say Bilderberg's, others the IMF or corporatism even the US is considered... And what about all the mindless idiots that personally facilitate their socialist agenda onto their very own brothers and sisters.... And reefer, "where are the leaders with Vision and a sense of Humanity, where is our collective sense of a fair go for All From what I just read, there in you and your OZ mates...
 
Metamorphic said:
All good points reefer and very par for the course mate!

But you know what, why get caught up in the politics of it all?

All i wanna do is go prospecting with a free reign, and F**k the rest of the worlds pressures!

A camp fire at night, a few beers and no radio of world news events.....Just the birds singing to me in the morning.

;)

A Mans world does not need to be fogged up with hidden clauses and BS to Trap him, just straight forward Laws without laws within Laws and that many chapters within more Laws,

A Mans word is Good enough and a shake of his Hand seals the Deal, and a Beer afterwards Sets it In Stone.

John
 
and the same laws Australia wide instead of state to state.. :)
Ridge Runner said:
Metamorphic said:
All good points reefer and very par for the course mate!

But you know what, why get caught up in the politics of it all?

All i wanna do is go prospecting with a free reign, and F**k the rest of the worlds pressures!

A camp fire at night, a few beers and no radio of world news events.....Just the birds singing to me in the morning.

;)

A Mans world does not need to be fogged up with hidden clauses and BS to Trap him, just straight forward Laws without laws within Laws and that many chapters within more Laws,

A Mans word is Good enough and a shake of his Hand seals the Deal, and a Beer afterwards Sets it In Stone.

John
 
Amen to that, it was standing together that made Australia Great,, yet Laws change from state to state, some things do seem a little crazy,

john
 
Hey Rotgut,Here in Hervey Bay and the whole QLD coast of Australia, The Greenies with lots of help from anglers banned trawlers from dropping their nets in the Bays and beach fronts , The Trawler operators said this will make it worse as their nets kicked the silt up uncovering the seagrass beds and would help the local fishing ,they were shouted down by the doo gooders and greenies brought back their licenses ,and guess what, ten years later and the Bay is so silted up that many areas of seagrass are under a foot of mud and silt.and where i previously caught fish i dont even get a bite, i have to go out further to find deeper channels to catch anything,Now i see on the news that the green bans were such a success they are going to increase the areas, god help us from fools.

I've always been for conservation and not ruining our planet but watched ads by greenies about stored carbon ,FFS its ok now to cut down trees as they are then classed as stored carbon (whatthefuck) the worlds gone mad and the morons are the ones with all the power,im almost ready to give up,there answers are no using our bush as we will ruin the place at the same time no one picks up the deadwood and the tracks become overgrown and alls right till the next bush fire thats worse than previous ones (good one mr greeny)cmon Australians start yelling so we are heard.
your dead right rotgut except its worldwide not just the USA,


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