Detecting bigger gold in NSW...."Alluvial" vs "Eluvial"

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10 Ounces of Alluvial & Eluvial Gold from the Bathurst Region of NSW

Firstly lets identify the difference...."Alluvial" gold is gold that has weathered from primary reefs and made its way to either ancient or modern water courses. Within these water courses it is moved by the stream or river and generally ends up on or near the bottom of these streams. Water action on these nuggets tends to erode the edges and as such are generally well rounded having few if any sharp edges.

"Eluvial" gold is gold that has weathered from a primary source and not made its way to a river or stream. It tends to be rough in nature with either sharp edges or a "prickly" formation, with in many cases the host rock still attached....we call these "species" and can quite often be large in size if they have only weathered a short distance from the parent reef. This is the gold that I most like to chase as many small stringer reefs were either missed or not substantial enough for the old timers to bother with. They were chasing the mother loads from large reefs and were extremely good at finding them to the point of very few were ever missed.

Successful detecting for these nuggets on a consistent basis is not a matter of luck and learning a few basics will greatly increase your chances of getting more rattles in your jar. Firstly, understanding how to read a geological map and by that I mean not just looking at rock structures in the areas you are searching. There are many more important things to look for such as "strike" and "dip", sheer or fault zones, uplifts and folding, direction of weathering, and the list goes on. It's worth taking the time to familiarize yourself with these as, when you overlay a topographic map to these areas you can soon establish which streams run through them and which direction they are travelling. These "geo" maps also show areas which have metamorphic zones and when they coincide with a fault zone in a gold bearing area you can very much narrow down where the best spots will be to start your research.

In NSW most of our gold fields tend to be at high elevation and as such make them very desirable for the detector operators who do their homework. Being high in elevation many of the smaller streams and creek beds have long bedrock sections and shallow overburden which makes them prime targets for the better PI machines and operators, as the gold is usually well within reach. Being able to isolate some tell tail signs like distinguishing greenstone from shalestone caused from metamorphic action by heat and pressure is also a good thing to know and learn, as being able to identify these areas will put you closer to the better gold.

Many of these high level gold deposits are also very rich in reef zones and shafts are common on almost every gold bearing area. This is where those who chase "Eluvial" gold can have some very rewarding finds if they can isolate some of the smaller stringer reefs that the old timers didn't bother about, and believe me when I say a very large number of these still exist to this very day. One small such stringer rewarded me with several ounces of rough gold from an area of less than 50 sq. metres from the primary source. They do exist and once you know what to look for, are not that uncommon to come across. My advice to the newcomers is keep well away from the larger shafts as when the old timers loamed their way up to them they didn't miss much. Also these deeper shafts saw a lot of action over considerable time, plus most of the miners camped on or near these shafts leaving huge amounts of accumulated rubbish strewn all over the place. Not fun when detecting. You will find that most of these shafts are in a line and follow fault zones. In my experience searching areas further up from these shafts are the most rewarding, remembering these hills/ mountains were hundreds of metres higher millions of years ago.

Successful detector operators are also the ones that take the time to become one with their machines. Coil selection also plays a big role. Not much benefit in running a large coil in a small stream/creek or a small coil for "eluvial" on the side of a mountain. Pretty obvious you might say but I have witnessed on many occasions wrong coil size has led to negative results in areas where they should have found a nugget. Pulse Induction or similar format machines are a must on our goldfields and will find more than 90% of the gold. VLF machines will find gold but with much less consistency coupled with a big headache from all the ground noise one has to contend with. If you want to be serious about getting good consistent gold, get a minimum of a GPX4500, 5000, 6000 Z7000 or SDC. As with any trade the better your tools the better your outcome.

There is a saying amongst fishermen that goes...10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish. The same goes for prospectors and that 10% get 90% of the gold. It is those who dedicate themselves to their craft and learn their trade who eventually become successful. One might say... but you still have to walk over that nugget so luck has some input. To that I say those who know "where" to walk, will walk over many more nuggets in the long run and make their own luck rather than rely on luck itself......may that big paddock be kind to you and may a large proportion of your targets be positive. Cheers Wal.

Below is a video of what type of creeks we tend to look for when chasing NSW alluvial gold.

 
Good advise Wal. This were I lag behind being able to read the ground.
You don't have to be a geologist to understand geology as Google is your very best friend. Asking questions is also a quick way to get advice. Don't be shy to ask here as there is no such thing as a stupid question...unless of course it's your wife asking how she looks in "that" dress:).
 
Very nice gold WalnLiz. It's getting much harder to find those bigger bits with the amount of detectors roaming about the bush. I'd love to be detecting in a beautiful spot like that with clear running water.
Thanks Moneybox...the thing with nuggets is once you take one away from its hiding place they don't replace themselves. It is still out there mainly because our goldfields are huge and it would take a lot of detecting to get even a small proportion of the gold nuggets still on offer. Hope some have your name on them mate.
 
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10 Ounces of Alluvial & Eluvial Gold from the Bathurst Region of NSW

Firstly lets identify the difference...."Alluvial" gold is gold that has weathered from primary reefs and made its way to either ancient or modern water courses. Within these water courses it is moved by the stream or river and generally ends up on or near the bottom of these streams. Water action on these nuggets tends to erode the edges and as such are generally well rounded having few if any sharp edges.

"Eluvial" gold is gold that has weathered from a primary source and not made its way to a river or stream. It tends to be rough in nature with either sharp edges or a "prickly" formation, with in many cases the host rock still attached....we call these "species" and can quite often be large in size if they have only weathered a short distance from the parent reef. This is the gold that I most like to chase as many small stringer reefs were either missed or not substantial enough for the old timers to bother with. They were chasing the mother loads from large reefs and were extremely good at finding them to the point of very few were ever missed.

Successful detecting for these nuggets on a consistent basis is not a matter of luck and learning a few basics will greatly increase your chances of getting more rattles in your jar. Firstly, understanding how to read a geological map and by that I mean not just looking at rock structures in the areas you are searching. There are many more important things to look for such as "strike" and "dip", sheer or fault zones, uplifts and folding, direction of weathering, and the list goes on. It's worth taking the time to familiarize yourself with these as, when you overlay a topographic map to these areas you can soon establish which streams run through them and which direction they are travelling. These "geo" maps also show areas which have metamorphic zones and when they coincide with a fault zone in a gold bearing area you can very much narrow down where the best spots will be to start your research.

In NSW most of our gold fields tend to be at high elevation and as such make them very desirable for the detector operators who do their homework. Being high in elevation many of the smaller streams and creek beds have long bedrock sections and shallow overburden which makes them prime targets for the better PI machines and operators, as the gold is usually well within reach. Being able to isolate some tell tail signs like distinguishing greenstone from shalestone caused from metamorphic action by heat and pressure is also a good thing to know and learn, as being able to identify these areas will put you closer to the better gold.

Many of these high level gold deposits are also very rich in reef zones and shafts are common on almost every gold bearing area. This is where those who chase "Eluvial" gold can have some very rewarding finds if they can isolate some of the smaller stringer reefs that the old timers didn't bother about, and believe me when I say a very large number of these still exist to this very day. One small such stringer rewarded me with several ounces of rough gold from an area of less than 50 sq. metres from the primary source. They do exist and once you know what to look for, are not that uncommon to come across. My advice to the newcomers is keep well away from the larger shafts as when the old timers loamed their way up to them they didn't miss much. Also these deeper shafts saw a lot of action over considerable time, plus most of the miners camped on or near these shafts leaving huge amounts of accumulated rubbish strewn all over the place. Not fun when detecting. You will find that most of these shafts are in a line and follow fault zones. In my experience searching areas further up from these shafts are the most rewarding, remembering these hills/ mountains were hundreds of metres higher millions of years ago.

Successful detector operators are also the ones that take the time to become one with their machines. Coil selection also plays a big role. Not much benefit in running a large coil in a small stream/creek or a small coil for "eluvial" on the side of a mountain. Pretty obvious you might say but I have witnessed on many occasions wrong coil size has led to negative results in areas where they should have found a nugget. Pulse Induction or similar format machines are a must on our goldfields and will find more than 90% of the gold. VLF machines will find gold but with much less consistency coupled with a big headache from all the ground noise one has to contend with. If you want to be serious about getting good consistent gold, get a minimum of a GPX4500, 5000, 6000 Z7000 or SDC. As with any trade the better your tools the better your outcome.

There is a saying amongst fishermen that goes...10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish. The same goes for prospectors and that 10% get 90% of the gold. It is those who dedicate themselves to their craft and learn their trade who eventually become successful. One might say... but you still have to walk over that nugget so luck has some input. To that I say those who know "where" to walk, will walk over many more nuggets in the long run and make their own luck rather than rely on luck itself......may that big paddock be kind to you and may a large proportion of your targets be positive. Cheers Wal.

Below is a video of what type of creeks we tend to look for when chasing NSW alluvial gold.


Wal it is posts like this that led me here and keep me here. Great information from a master. Especially for a complete newbie like me. They say truths hurts and I have to say your appraisal of VLF effectiveness did cause a few aches. Aches for a nice PI that is. I reckon I have to cut my teeth, learning to read the land and scrape the surface with my Goldmonster before upgrading to a deep diving detector. It's funny but I have thought from the get go that my preferred first projects will be ridgelines and first order streams. Not a very systematic approach but more a "Where can I get some nice less trod country". The thrill of the explore might offset the ache for a PI ha ha.
 
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10 Ounces of Alluvial & Eluvial Gold from the Bathurst Region of NSW

Firstly lets identify the difference...."Alluvial" gold is gold that has weathered from primary reefs and made its way to either ancient or modern water courses. Within these water courses it is moved by the stream or river and generally ends up on or near the bottom of these streams. Water action on these nuggets tends to erode the edges and as such are generally well rounded having few if any sharp edges.

"Eluvial" gold is gold that has weathered from a primary source and not made its way to a river or stream. It tends to be rough in nature with either sharp edges or a "prickly" formation, with in many cases the host rock still attached....we call these "species" and can quite often be large in size if they have only weathered a short distance from the parent reef. This is the gold that I most like to chase as many small stringer reefs were either missed or not substantial enough for the old timers to bother with. They were chasing the mother loads from large reefs and were extremely good at finding them to the point of very few were ever missed.

Successful detecting for these nuggets on a consistent basis is not a matter of luck and learning a few basics will greatly increase your chances of getting more rattles in your jar. Firstly, understanding how to read a geological map and by that I mean not just looking at rock structures in the areas you are searching. There are many more important things to look for such as "strike" and "dip", sheer or fault zones, uplifts and folding, direction of weathering, and the list goes on. It's worth taking the time to familiarize yourself with these as, when you overlay a topographic map to these areas you can soon establish which streams run through them and which direction they are travelling. These "geo" maps also show areas which have metamorphic zones and when they coincide with a fault zone in a gold bearing area you can very much narrow down where the best spots will be to start your research.

In NSW most of our gold fields tend to be at high elevation and as such make them very desirable for the detector operators who do their homework. Being high in elevation many of the smaller streams and creek beds have long bedrock sections and shallow overburden which makes them prime targets for the better PI machines and operators, as the gold is usually well within reach. Being able to isolate some tell tail signs like distinguishing greenstone from shalestone caused from metamorphic action by heat and pressure is also a good thing to know and learn, as being able to identify these areas will put you closer to the better gold.

Many of these high level gold deposits are also very rich in reef zones and shafts are common on almost every gold bearing area. This is where those who chase "Eluvial" gold can have some very rewarding finds if they can isolate some of the smaller stringer reefs that the old timers didn't bother about, and believe me when I say a very large number of these still exist to this very day. One small such stringer rewarded me with several ounces of rough gold from an area of less than 50 sq. metres from the primary source. They do exist and once you know what to look for, are not that uncommon to come across. My advice to the newcomers is keep well away from the larger shafts as when the old timers loamed their way up to them they didn't miss much. Also these deeper shafts saw a lot of action over considerable time, plus most of the miners camped on or near these shafts leaving huge amounts of accumulated rubbish strewn all over the place. Not fun when detecting. You will find that most of these shafts are in a line and follow fault zones. In my experience searching areas further up from these shafts are the most rewarding, remembering these hills/ mountains were hundreds of metres higher millions of years ago.

Successful detector operators are also the ones that take the time to become one with their machines. Coil selection also plays a big role. Not much benefit in running a large coil in a small stream/creek or a small coil for "eluvial" on the side of a mountain. Pretty obvious you might say but I have witnessed on many occasions wrong coil size has led to negative results in areas where they should have found a nugget. Pulse Induction or similar format machines are a must on our goldfields and will find more than 90% of the gold. VLF machines will find gold but with much less consistency coupled with a big headache from all the ground noise one has to contend with. If you want to be serious about getting good consistent gold, get a minimum of a GPX4500, 5000, 6000 Z7000 or SDC. As with any trade the better your tools the better your outcome.

There is a saying amongst fishermen that goes...10% of the fishermen catch 90% of the fish. The same goes for prospectors and that 10% get 90% of the gold. It is those who dedicate themselves to their craft and learn their trade who eventually become successful. One might say... but you still have to walk over that nugget so luck has some input. To that I say those who know "where" to walk, will walk over many more nuggets in the long run and make their own luck rather than rely on luck itself......may that big paddock be kind to you and may a large proportion of your targets be positive. Cheers Wal.

Below is a video of what type of creeks we tend to look for when chasing NSW alluvial gold.


Great read there Wal, as a novice to this game I found your article very informative. Have found some very small bits so far but not much reward for effort. This may help me to refine my wanderings. Very generous so thanks . Peter from WA wheatbelt
 
Wal it is posts like this that led me here and keep me here. Great information from a master. Especially for a complete newbie like me. They say truths hurts and I have to say your appraisal of VLF effectiveness did cause a few aches. Aches for a nice PI that is. I reckon I have to cut my teeth, learning to read the land and scrape the surface with my Goldmonster before upgrading to a deep diving detector. It's funny but I have thought from the get go that my preferred first projects will be ridgelines and first order streams. Not a very systematic approach but more a "Where can I get some nice less trod country". The thrill of the explore might offset the ache for a PI ha ha.
Thanks for the reply Gregyem...dont be disheartened with owning a gold monster mate as they are a very capable machine especially on the smaller gold and specie gold. The further you get up ridge lines generally the less mineralization and then the gold monster should serve you very well. You've got the best attitude when you say that the thrill of the explore is what is really important. Good luck out there...Cheers Wal.
 
Great read there Wal, as a novice to this game I found your article very informative. Have found some very small bits so far but not much reward for effort. This may help me to refine my wanderings. Very generous so thanks . Peter from WA wheatbelt
You are in the best area of all Australia Peter as once you get onto some gold over there the learning curve should soon get you high enough to find gold very consistently. You've got a few more laws over there but you also have a huge amount of exploration leases and pending ground to search, for very little cost. I'm sure we will all see some good nuggets in the future from you on this Forum. Good luck.
 
Nice advice Wal, and thanks very much.
Some of us just like bumbling around in the bush and not giving 2 cents worth about finding anything.
It's about escape and chilling.
Like your attitude mate as if you don't enjoy the hunt then half of the thrill is already lost. Hope you get a good one soon..
 
Thanks for the reply Gregyem...dont be disheartened with owning a gold monster mate as they are a very capable machine especially on the smaller gold and specie gold. The further you get up ridge lines generally the less mineralization and then the gold monster should serve you very well. You've got the best attitude when you say that the thrill of the explore is what is really important. Good luck out there...Cheers Wal.
Mate you are a font of knowledge. Okay that's great to know about mineralisation. Thanks for the encouragement. Yeah in my younger days I use to do a bit of ticking in the northern rivers for an extra dollar or two and though the money was helpful, the exploration is what really got me out there. Been too home bound the last few years and chomping at the bit to get out in some scrub again.
 
You are in the best area of all Australia Peter as once you get onto some gold over there the learning curve should soon get you high enough to find gold very consistently. You've got a few more laws over there but you also have a huge amount of exploration leases and pending ground to search, for very little cost. I'm sure we will all see some good nuggets in the future from you on this Forum. Good luck.
Yeah thanks Wal, will be heading up to a station between Cue and Meeka that an ol mate runs cattle on. Will try some pending ground there then further north to a 40e permit area. Love being out there ,the other half doesn't have the same love of the great outdoors however. Might change if I bring home a chunk of yella stuff.
 
Yeah thanks Wal, will be heading up to a station between Cue and Meeka that an ol mate runs cattle on. Will try some pending ground there then further north to a 40e permit area. Love being out there ,the other half doesn't have the same love of the great outdoors however. Might change if I bring home a chunk of yella stuff.
You will do well around that Meeka region...and if you get that big one I'm sure the wife will be asking you to buy her a new metal detector...maybe even a caravan and who knows, she might be the one instigating all the future outings. One can only be positive and live in hope.;)....Cheers Wal.
 
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