Hunting for "REEF" Gold....an approach for beginners.

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WalnLiz

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Reef or "Eluvial" Gold is in my opinion not given the attention it deserves amongst many detector operators. Finding the tell tail signs requires a different approach to hunting "Alluvial" gold nuggets within water courses. For Alluvial nuggets one mostly looks for bedrock within the range of the coil size being used. The main search zones are within only a few metres of the high flood level zone of the creeks being worked. The biggest problem with chasing these nuggets is it's very easy to clean out creek beds of these nuggets. One needs dramatic flood activity to replenish nuggets, as the floods have to be severe enough to erode usually a significant amount of soil from the streams bank to get nuggets back within the "new" detectable range for these nuggets.

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Reef or "Eluvial" gold, is best chased by "Loaming" the high flood water levels, starting from as little as a few metres above any high flood level, and thus searching in ground where only "shedding" gold has travelled. It usually hasn't travelled far from its source, hence has not necessarily worked deep down to bedrock. True "Loaming" is a technique that would require a very lengthy post to explain properly, and there is quite a few good books on the market where this method is explained in great detail. In short when working a stream for alluvial gold one often comes across sections where " Prickly" or "Specie / Reef" gold is encountered. This gold has not come down the stream but instead shed down from a nearby reef in the surrounding hillside. These locations are where the old timers used "Loaming" techniques to chase the gold up to its source. They took soil samples from around the base of the hill from where the ragged gold was found and panned them to find where the most "colours" prevailed. They repeated this along the contours up the hill until either the gold ran out or a "visible" reef was encountered. If no visible reef was found they dug down from their last sample and usually found a smaller "Stringer "reef not far below the surface. These are the "Reefs" we like to chase with the detectors as they had very little attention back in the day. Most are indicated by what looks like a "grave" and the gold soon ran out. Loaming was so successful that there is hardly a significant exposed reef left that wasn't discovered by the old timers using this method. 😢

Pretty well all the Goldfields in NSW have both Alluvial and Eluvial gold within them. Research, especially identifying shafts, on the field you are working is a must and plotting these shafts on the GPS is your first point of call. In most cases where major reefs have been found, smaller "Stringer" reefs very often occur in close proximity. Remember that the old timers were not too interested in the spoils from reefs while "Loaming" but instead were concentrating on the bigger picture, which was the source of the gold and the "mother load". We are unfortunately not going to find many "Mother Loads" these days but the "spoils" from the old timers haste to get to the reef is more than enough to keep us satisfied and the jar rattling. A degree of fitness is also required as no longer are we working the easier river flats, but instead the sides of hills and sometimes mountains.😮 Remember to keep hydrated as physical exercise from working some of these areas can catch some by surprise.

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Us detector people generally don't run around with a gold pan in our back pack so we tend to loam "electronically." The principal is still the same but what we do is generally use our most sensitive coil and work via contour lines up from where we find "Prickly" or "specie" gold. Most of the time the gold nearer the creek is very small as it has shed the furthest, getting larger as it gets closer to It's source. Species are the main give away and sometimes a piece of quartz may only show a speck of gold. Extreme care and concentration is required to hear some of these faint signals as we are not looking for "Screamers" in these situations. Machines like the new 6000 will certainly open up this type of detecting big time, and I'm imagining many stringer reefs will be exposed by those prepared to correctly look for them. I've found most of mine using my 5000 but recently Liz's 2300 has outgunned me.:oops: I hate saying this but unfortunately either a 4500, 5k, 6k, 7k or 2300 are a must to be successful at this type of prospecting with any sort of real consistency.

One piece of personal advice when hunting "Reef" gold is make use of your GPS and pin every piece of gold you find in an area. Not only can it give a useful map of how the gold is shedding but also shows you where to give additional attention once you have taken the obvious and easy surface gold. When I talk about "Additional attention" what I mean is, where I find a piece of "Reef" gold I go back to that spot later with a shovel and take 20cm off the surface for a couple of metres around where each nugget / specie was found. On too numerous occasions to mention there has been more gold at this new detectable depth, and generally larger pieces as well. Make sure you fill in these depressions and rake the top flat as the last thing you want is to advertise a possible find to others. Too many people find a shedded reef, take the obvious easily detected gold, and then walk away thinking they've got the lot. If only they knew what they have possibly left behind. ;) If bedrock is within a reasonable depth then this surfacing can be extended further down. You don't generally do this all at once so it gives you a much longer period to work that patch over many trips. I worked one such patch for three months finding gold on every occasion.

This thread is mainly directed at the areas I work in NSW but the principal is the same everywhere. In WA this particular "Loaming" principal is not quite as effective given the size of the ancient water courses and distance between reefs. Good luck to all who persevere and stay safe out there on those gold fields. Cheers Wal.

 
There's still plenty out there RM. A bit of effort with getting to know your area and a little effort in research goes a long way to getting some very positive results. I hate it when people say "All the good gold is gone"...It's not the case at all. The good gold is there for those who want to put in the effort.
 
Great write up Wal. Thanks. I've been trying to get my head around some geography that involves reefs lately.
In the last few months I've walked around, over, across them but it does take time.
These are the obvious larger ones shown on some maps.
Only found a few specks so far but I'll keep trying. :)

The big problem with the larger "Named" reefs is they were generally very rich and had a huge amount of effort put into them. A line of reefs following a fault line very often can go for a kilometre or more. I use this info to get an idea of where they are shedding but keep well away from them when detecting. Instead I prefer to put myself in the shoes of those who "originally" loamed up to them and concentrate far lower than the shafts themselves, looking for their scraps and where they found the prickly gold in the first place. Shafts are not worth the effort...it's stringer reefs we like to expose.

I try and concentrate in the first 40m or so from the creek from which the old timers started their loaming. Quite often you can see the tell tail signs where the loaming began in the form of shallow uniform depressions which you can see were never a digging but a test hole. It does take time, and it helps if you can find some indicators to show where your efforts should be concentrated. Keep at it SL and it will eventually click. ;)
 
I can only add that the detectorist's loaming practice today is decidedly hampered with the coils that have been over the ground previously, - other detectorists having removed the consistency of location of 'potential nearby reef indicators'.

Any gold detected immediately commences the study of the piece itself to read its 'story' of nature, shape and location etc., it is therefore not always the frequency of finds by loaming today but the determined search that must follow one find only.

And yes, as the video shows, working hard where others won't go, removing impediments to get clear ground to detect and more.

Luvs ya work!
Thank you wilko.
 
I can only add that the detectorist's loaming practice today is decidedly hampered with the coils that have been over the ground previously, - other detectorists having removed the consistency of location of 'potential nearby reef indicators'.

Any gold detected immediately commences the study of the piece itself to read its 'story' of nature, shape and location etc., it is therefore not always the frequency of finds by loaming today but the determined search that must follow one find only.
es, as the video shows, working hard where others won't go, removing impediments to get clear ground to detect and more.

Luvs ya work!
Thank you wilko.

You have to put in some hard yards wilko when you find the point of entry for reef gold. In this particular vid we found the small feeder gully down which much of the prickly gold shed. Above this entry point only solid gold 🤔, not that I was complaining. We panned and detected up the gully till the gold ran out, found which side of the hill it shed and very diligently worked up the slope. Unfortunately it ended at a Stringer which the old timers worked to a depth of about 10metres.

The reef must have been extremely rich as we ended up with over 15oz of very impressive reef gold that they didn't bother about, with many pieces well over an ounce in weight. We found a similar scenario on a section of reef about a kilometre away and are still working it at the moment.
 
This was my Loaming experience

Detecting up a Shallow Lead, digging in the Gully stopped, then walked up on the slope till I discovered the reef lodge and bingo outcome the shot of gold Specimens Photo Attached.

Reef Description was as the Quartz's vein changed to Lamination and this is where the shot had spilled from.

Chewton Victoria
 

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This was my Loaming experience

Detecting up a Shallow Lead, digging in the Gully stopped, then walked up on the slope till I discovered the reef lodge and bingo outcome the shot of gold Specimens Photo Attached.

Reef Description was as the Quartz's vein changed to Lamination and this is where the shot had spilled from.

Chewton Victoria

Well done Detrack....some nice pieces amongst that lot mate. 👍
 
This was my Loaming experience

Detecting up a Shallow Lead, digging in the Gully stopped, then walked up on the slope till I discovered the reef lodge and bingo outcome the shot of gold Specimens Photo Attached.

Reef Description was as the Quartz's vein changed to Lamination and this is where the shot had spilled from.

Chewton Victoria
Did a lot of ferreting around the Duke of Cornwall mine as a kid, wish I'd had a Z back then 🤔 🤣 You probably can't get near the ground nowadays? Pretty much like the Garfield wheel .......................... all fenced up. :oops:
 
Did a lot of ferreting around the Duke of Cornwall mine as a kid, wish I'd had a Z back then 🤔 🤣 You probably can't get near the ground nowadays? Pretty much like the Garfield wheel .......................... all fenced up. :oops:

Lot of ground getting fenced up these days unfortunately. :( If you did a lot of ferreting as a kid I'm sure you might have a few locations up your sleeve worth having a new look at. Good luck Diginit.
 
Lot of ground getting fenced up these days unfortunately. :( If you did a lot of ferreting as a kid I'm sure you might have a few locations up your sleeve worth having a new look at. Good luck Diginit.
Wal indeed yes, many school mates had land passed down or are now land owners themselves in the area. In the day Castlemaine was where all kids from Taradale, Elephinstone, Maldon, Guildford, Campbells Creek, Showell's Hill, Chewton, Fryerstown, Harcourt and everything in between went to school. Has certainly changed since those days but a lot of land that no one has been over simply because the gates are shut. Actually funny what the memory brings back, many will probably remember the Faraday School Siege ? Most of the kids involved were the younger siblings of class mates. The shafts from the Wattle Gully mine used to run under my house in Wesley Hill. Story always was that more gold was pinched from Wattle Gully than what was processed :rolleyes: But surely that's just a myth 🤔:D😂
 
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Wal indeed yes, many school mates had land passed down or are now land owners themselves in the area. In the day Castlemaine was were all kids from Taradale, Elephinstone, Maldon, Guildford, Chewton, Fryerstown, Harcourt and everything in between went to school. Has certainly changed since those days but a lot of land that no one has been over simply because the gates are shut. The shafts from the Wattle Gully mine used to run under my house in Wesley Hill. Story always was that more gold was pinched from Wattle Gully than what was processed :rolleyes: But surely that's just a myth 🤔:D😂

You've got a lot of local history on your side mate :rolleyes: ....If I had the Wattle Gully mine under my house I recon I would have dug a tunnel in the garage and made a wine cellar in one of the shafts...and of course it would have consistently been expanded to add more bottles of wine, though every shovel of dirt might have gone through my hi-banker.;)
 
Wal indeed yes, many school mates had land passed down or are now land owners themselves in the area. In the day Castlemaine was where all kids from Taradale, Elephinstone, Maldon, Guildford, Chewton, Fryerstown, Harcourt and everything in between went to school. Has certainly changed since those days but a lot of land that no one has been over simply because the gates are shut. The shafts from the Wattle Gully mine used to run under my house in Wesley Hill. Story always was that more gold was pinched from Wattle Gully than what was processed :rolleyes: But surely that's just a myth 🤔:D😂
I am familiar with Wattle gully and I think any of its drives under Wesley Hill is also a myth (but other mines might, there is a parallel line west of it). And I doubt if a huge amount was stolen. When I first graduated we had a gold squad (for the past 35 years or more) and penalties were huge. I was on another mine and it had a typical change house - come in one door, hang your street clothes and walk naked through the showers and step over a wall, put on underground clothes (washed by the mine). Reverse at the end of the shift. Some was stolen of course but there is only so much you can stuff up your bum, especially if it is still in quartz. But there were still home-made smelters in the hills, but I suspect they were more for gold stolen elsewhere off the mining leases, not from the mine workings themselves. With those penalties the small amount you could get out was just not worth it. Small mines had poorer security. Most mine managers had a "mineral collection" that would often disappear from the office when they moved on...but still small (600,000 or so ounces is a lot compared with what can be stolen).
 
No expert Goldie but my parents house was basically Chewton before the Castlemaine border / sign was put up. Add a few decades to the 35 years bloke ;) Never dug a hole to see but many locals back in the day worked at the mine. 👍
Then I guess we could talk about the mould for a large shifter that was found. :rolleyes: As they say were there is a will there's a way 😂
 
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Yeah correct there Wal, there was also a hydraulic mine behind the back fence. Fathers family were all farm owners in Moliagul. The old man used to un hook the horse from the dray after carting wheat before school and ride it down to Moliagul school and tie it up for the day. Now if a bloke had only had a GPZ back then I'd own a few Islands :cool: :oops: :oops:

Not wrong there Diginit....if ever a time machine gets invented the first thing I'm going to pack is my detector and the first date I'm going to punch into the machine is1880. ☺️
 
No expert Goldie but my parents house was basically Chewton before the Castlemaine border / sign was put up. Add a few decades to the 35 years bloke ;) Never dug a hole to see but many locals back in the day worked at the mine. 👍
Then I guess we could talk about the mould for a large shifter that was found. :rolleyes: As they say were there is a will there's a way 😂
The reason for my comment is that I know Wesley Hill. One job years ago was to superimpose the underground workings of every Castlemaine-Chewton mine onto a topographic map of the area. Purely from memory I don't think the Wattle Gully workings went anywhere near so far west, but there was a parallel reef line in that area with workings on it.

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All the workings on the Wattle Gully mine span a width of just over one kilometre. The reef systems of the area go a long way north, but only a short distance east-west. and are parallel to each other.

Here is an east west section of the area from near Wesley Hill to east of Chewton. I don't know where your house was, but the next significant mining to the west was the Eureks, which might be the one at Wesley Hill.

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