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Well said Goldtalk. Been one of my hobby horses for years when talking to people new to the game.
Run their detectors as stable as possible and trust their ears and brains. Their ears to hear a difference in signal and their brains to realise that they must investigate. Sometimes those differences can be like whispers and can only be heard against a stable threshold.
Being a Hawk supporter, I chose to add ear to represent what I am on about. Probably hawks don’t hear that well but Batear didn’t have the same sound.
Yes at the end of the day a detector is just a tool with an operator holding it, not the other way round.
 
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thanks guys...I appreciate your feedback....to be honest...I was waiting to get shot down!!!
Hard to get shot down when your views are exactly on point. If you don't run your machine with a quiet thresh hold you will always walk over those soft targets, which is where many of your targets are gold.
 
Very sound thinking and very clearly explained. Another aspect is some people new to detecting fail to understand that there is much to learn in this hobby - it’s not simply a matter of switching the detector on then finding a truckload of treasure whether it be gold, coins or other valuables. One thing I notice when speaking with other detectorists I meet is many don’t want to dig “rubbish”, they don’t want to lose much sweat or spend much time, they only want “treasure”, and they want it now.
 
I have noticed many quotes from you very experienced people that tiny murmur sounds often lead to good finds. As one whose hearing is pretty damaged from tractor driving, squealing pigs and rifle shots even though i tried to keep ear muffs on most of the time i wonder if those signal amplifiers are of any use. Anyone have advice on them would be welcome.
 
I have noticed many quotes from you very experienced people that tiny murmur sounds often lead to good finds. As one whose hearing is pretty damaged from tractor driving, squealing pigs and rifle shots even though i tried to keep ear muffs on most of the time i wonder if those signal amplifiers are of any use. Anyone have advice on them would be welcome.
Amplifier (Steelphase or Quest) & noise cancelling headphones together might help you to hear without any outside noise.
 
I have noticed many quotes from you very experienced people that tiny murmur sounds often lead to good finds. As one whose hearing is pretty damaged from tractor driving, squealing pigs and rifle shots even though i tried to keep ear muffs on most of the time i wonder if those signal amplifiers are of any use. Anyone have advice on them would be welcome.
I have hearing loss and have invested in good quality (and expensive) volume adjustable headphones (Black Widows) designed specifically for detector use which allow for (in my opinion) a louder and cleaner sound than what one may hear through the standard headphones or a speaker. There maybe other less expensive brands on the market that could also be an improvement so that is an area that you could investigate.
Also my hearing loss tends to be at the higher frequency level, so I set my threshold lower than most so that the full rise and fall range of a signal target is well within my best hearing range.
I have also just bought a Steelphase SP01 enhancer and keen to try it out but can’t as yet comment there.
A detector will do its job like any machine, but it is up to you from then on and that can only be achieved if your ears hear something that tells your brain to investigate.
 
Very sound thinking and very clearly explained. Another aspect is some people new to detecting fail to understand that there is much to learn in this hobby - it’s not simply a matter of switching the detector on then finding a truckload of treasure whether it be gold, coins or other valuables. One thing I notice when speaking with other detectorists I meet is many don’t want to dig “rubbish”, they don’t want to lose much sweat or spend much time, they only want “treasure”, and they want it now.
Hi Clem...I've been around a bit mate...and I hate digging rubbish....I'm there for the gold not the junk!!
 
I have noticed many quotes from you very experienced people that tiny murmur sounds often lead to good finds. As one whose hearing is pretty damaged from tractor driving, squealing pigs and rifle shots even though i tried to keep ear muffs on most of the time i wonder if those signal amplifiers are of any use. Anyone have advice on them would be welcome.
Hmmm...yep...my advice is to always chase small gold...the big ones will find you. If you set yourself and your equipment up for quiet targets then you cant go wrong in my opinion. Often....a deep big target will sound like a fairy fart at the start. As far as amplifiers go, yes, they would be worth your time to play around with for sure. Main thing though is to play around with the 'audio tone' or pitch. The experts say that lower tones are better if you have industrial deafness etc. Next time you find a soft target....play around with the audio tone till you find the pitch that suits your ears. Last thing is to accept whatever limitations you have mate...there will always be a better operator out there than you but so what...your out there doing it. Every time Lisa calls me over to hear a target that I cant hear it makes me feel bloody useless!!
 
I've tried every settings under the sun. Some say run your machine hot (flat out) and train your brain for 100 hours of noise.. well, I'm with goldtalk. I like a lower gain setting around 6-8 if you want sanity anyhow! Sensitivity on 4
If I miss a .002 bit.. so be it!
 
Very sound thinking and very clearly explained. Another aspect is some people new to detecting fail to understand that there is much to learn in this hobby - it’s not simply a matter of switching the detector on then finding a truckload of treasure whether it be gold, coins or other valuables. One thing I notice when speaking with other detectorists I meet is many don’t want to dig “rubbish”, they don’t want to lose much sweat or spend much time, they only want “treasure”, and they want it now.
They're the one's that have 4 year old 7000's with 2/3 days use in the cupboard.
Bought 1 last year 2hrs use with the 19" coil (he only wanted the big nuggets) 14" never put on machine, unused minelab 35 pointer + more extras $6,500 the lot 🤑 2hrs use cost him $2,000 an hr. He didn't find any gold!
 

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