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Hi All,

If I could get some help in identifying any of these relics, all found in Vic.
Any help would be much appreciated :)

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Top 2 are buttons 3rd and 6th are a spoon/spatula, possibly silver 4th and 5th are the original clothes Iron that was heated/warmed on the combination fire more than likely in the kitchen.

Looks like you might have fossicked an old dwelling site, nice finds :Y: As for their value, zilch money wise, sentimental value is upto the finder :beer:

Welcome to PA.
 
Thankyou a heap!

Would you possibly know what era or any more details on that button? i know its navy but cant find much more

Also with the spoon/ spatula im trying to see the hallmarkings better, if possibly silver would know you the best way i could try clean it?

Found a lot of old bottles aswell quite possible it was an old dwelling:)
 
I recon silver plated in the spoon and spatula, fair bit of coppery looking bits there.
Recon that thing that looks like an iron has a rounded bottom on it, if so my guess would be for shaping leather for the front of shoes.
 
Elishaa315 said:
Also with the spoon/ spatula im trying to see the hallmarkings better, if possibly silver would know you the best way i could try clean it?

Given the poor condition, it'll just be worthless nickel silver, a common material used for making cheap cutlery and other such housewares before stainless steel became available. There's no actual silver involved, just a silver-coloured nickel/zinc/copper alloy. Nickel silver was also often used as a plating material on a brass object, usually labelled EPNS for "Electro-Plated Nickel Silver".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nickel_silver

The "hallmarks" were just used to make cheap cutlery resemble real silver knives/forks/spoons.
 
Maybe a long shot, found this old silver spoon that was covered in crud. Soaked it in vinegar but the identification logos are still not very clear.
Anyway, are there any gurus who may be able to help?
** Just did a little googling, the one bit of info found was;
"The four standard marks of a hallmark were the standard/purity mark, the assay office symbol, the date letter and the maker's mark. A fifth duty mark was used between 1784 and 1890."
This spoon has the 5th duty mark.

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Hi Nightjar, you have a silver plate spoon. English sterling usually has three typical marks. The town mark (where it was assayed), for example an anchor for Birmingham, a Crown for Sheffield etc. The sterling mark (lion passant) which looks like a lion standing sideways and the date letter which refers to the year it was made. Depending on the King or Queen in power at the time it may have their head stamped on the piece too. Plated wares often had four to five marks and the two diamond shaped ones on your spoon are a good indicator of plate. Btw, this isn't something I cut and pasted, just what I have learned on the job over the years. The other less complicated test - polish it. If after a long time all you see is a nice shiny silver spoon, it it sterling. Plated ones will always show their wear and never really get a lot better.
 
Hi Nightjar, you have a silver plate spoon. English sterling usually has three typical marks. The town mark (where it was assayed), for example an anchor for Birmingham, a Crown for Sheffield etc. The sterling mark (lion passant) which looks like a lion standing sideways and the date letter which refers to the year it was made. Depending on the King or Queen in power at the time it may have their head stamped on the piece too. Plated wares often had four to five marks and the two diamond shaped ones on your spoon are a good indicator of plate. Btw, this isn't something I cut and pasted, just what I have learned on the job over the years. The other less complicated test - polish it. If after a long time all you see is a nice shiny silver spoon, it it sterling. Plated ones will always show their wear and never really get a lot better.
Thanks Joe, We can learn something every day. This one will just drop into the drawer with the rest of the relics I've found through the years. It seems forks & spoons (especially forks) were the most commonly used utensils in the early days?
 
Thanks Joe, We can learn something every day. This one will just drop into the drawer with the rest of the relics I've found through the years. It seems forks & spoons (especially forks) were the most commonly used utensils in the early days?
I think the reason that appears to be the case today, is that before stainless became cheap and universal, steel knife blades rusted away quickly and their wooden or bone handles also deteriorate (and aren't detectable).
 
I think the reason that appears to be the case today, is that before stainless became cheap and universal, steel knife blades rusted away quickly and their wooden or bone handles also deteriorate (and aren't detectable).
Table cutlery knives rarely found. Yes, have found knives and cleavers and all of them were without handles. The two in photo are ones I restored, handles made from sandalwood, secured with 3mm bronze welding rod.
 

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